Reluctant let through

[On_Plane]

Re: Reluctant let through

my understanding of the etiquette.

here's the kicker, if the group ahead is playing at a reasonable pace and refuses, it's not their fault the groups behind cannot find more friends to play with to make a foursome.

so playing through is NOT a right, an entitlement nor assured and you shouldn't be upset if you're not let through.

Beauty.

If it's busy ahead of you and you turn in 2:20, you can't complain too much. As a single, you can't play through everyone and rip off 18 in 2 and a half.

If there is one group in front of you and they won't let you through and you turn in 2:20, now you have a reason to be ticked.

[P25]

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my understanding of the etiquette.

The group ahead has the choice to let a single/2some/3some through. The group behind cannot ask.

usually if the group ahead knows they are slow or it's wide open ahead, they'll offer to let the group behind through knowing the smaller group behind will not slow them down (usually).

here's the kicker, if the group ahead is playing at a reasonable pace and refuses, it's not their fault the groups behind cannot find more friends to play with to make a foursome.

so playing through is NOT a right, an entitlement nor assured and you shouldn't be upset if you're not let through.

I don't agree at all if there is open space ahead. Slow groups should be expected to allow faster players to play through.

[hoganapexplus]

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Beauty.

If it's busy ahead of you and you turn in 2:20, you can't complain too much. As a single, you can't play through everyone and rip off 18 in 2 and a half.

If there is one group in front of you and they won't let you through and you turn in 2:20, now you have a reason to be ticked.

I don't agree at all if there is open space ahead. Slow groups should be expected to allow faster players to play through.

Both of these. I don't care what pace the foursome is making, whether they are "on time" with the tee sheet or not. If I am waiting every shot and there is room in front of them, then they should let me through. And etiquette is a lost art these days anyway, so if everyone just assumed that faster players go through it would make things easier.
I would never expect to get let through multiple groups all the way to #18.

[petvan]

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I often play as a single. I don't expect to be allowed through but it only makes sense if the course is wide open but for a few groups.

I will try to hang back until a par 3 comes along. I find it best to allow the group ahead to hit onto a par 3 and hit on as well(with their permission), putt out and be onto the next hole and teed off before they even finish putting out on the par 3 behind. ZERO intrusion and time wasted.

This is my move too. Prior to that, I work to ensure I'm not pressuring them - ie, hang back as you point out. No need to stress them out thinking about if/when to let me through.

If I'm in a cart, I'll do so on any tee deck as I usually finish the hole before anyone catches up.

P

[4wedges]

Re: Reluctant let through

my understanding of the etiquette.

The group ahead has the choice to let a single/2some/3some through. The group behind cannot ask.

usually if the group ahead knows they are slow or it's wide open ahead, they'll offer to let the group behind through knowing the smaller group behind will not slow them down (usually).

here's the kicker, if the group ahead is playing at a reasonable pace and refuses, it's not their fault the groups behind cannot find more friends to play with to make a foursome.

so playing through is NOT a right, an entitlement nor assured and you shouldn't be upset if you're not let through.

Wow, just wow.
Is playing slow and holding the group behind an entitlement? What about courtesy to other golfers?

[Benz]

Re: Reluctant let through

my understanding of the etiquette.

The group ahead has the choice to let a single/2some/3some through. The group behind cannot ask.

NOT. Who ever told you such a thing. Do you not know anything about golf etiquette?

usually if the group ahead knows they are slow or it's wide open ahead, they'll offer to let the group behind through knowing the smaller group behind will not slow them down (usually).

Usually? Maybe, at best. Often not, mainly because there is often one guy in the group ahead with a real attitude about letting anyone go through under any circumstances. And, it only takes one, because the group doesn't want to offend one of their own for the benefit of a group behind them.

here's the kicker, if the group ahead is playing at a reasonable pace and refuses, it's not their fault the groups behind cannot find more friends to play with to make a foursome.

You're kidding, right?
The criteria is not so much 'reasonable pace' (who decides what is 'reasonable'?) as opposed to whether there are one or more open holes ahead.

so playing through is NOT a right, an entitlement nor assured and you shouldn't be upset if you're not let through.

Dead wrong. No group has the right to hold up one or more faster groups just because they don't feel like letting them through.
It is attitudes like yours which are at the root of slow play and and a major cause of people giving up the game because of poor etiquette and rounds simply taking too long to play.

Responses above.

[Benz]

Re: Reluctant let through

my understanding of the etiquette.

The group ahead has the choice to let a single/2some/3some through. The group behind cannot ask.

usually if the group ahead knows they are slow or it's wide open ahead, they'll offer to let the group behind through knowing the smaller group behind will not slow them down (usually).

here's the kicker, if the group ahead is playing at a reasonable pace and refuses, it's not their fault the groups behind cannot find more friends to play with to make a foursome.

so playing through is NOT a right, an entitlement nor assured and you shouldn't be upset if you're not let through.

Do you actually play golf? If so, where?

[ManFromMoffat]

Re: Reluctant let through

my understanding of the etiquette.

The group ahead has the choice to let a single/2some/3some through. The group behind cannot ask.

usually if the group ahead knows they are slow or it's wide open ahead, they'll offer to let the group behind through knowing the smaller group behind will not slow them down (usually).

here's the kicker, if the group ahead is playing at a reasonable pace and refuses, it's not their fault the groups behind cannot find more friends to play with to make a foursome.

so playing through is NOT a right, an entitlement nor assured and you shouldn't be upset if you're not let through.

Do you spend a lot of time on the 401 camped in the left lane doing a buck and holding people up ?

[JCJ]

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Let me share a story about this topic. We thought it was funny at the time.
My buddy and I were playing the old Richview GC (sadly, now a subdivision). We were trying to get 18 on a twilight ticket. Well, the entire front 9 we followed a very slow threesome. Two guys and a woman. One of the guys was "teaching" the woman how to play, and how to hit a golf shot. She didn't look too impressed and the guy was himself terrible. Even on carts and with my friend and I walking, we were right behind them through 9 holes.
Finally on 10 we caught them on the tee as buddy was showing the lady how to set up her drive. I asked if we could play through, politely. The guys hemmed and hawed, but the lady was gracious and offered to let us tee-up.
Well I suck, but hit the drive of my life, 250 right up the pipe. It even looked great in the air!
My buddy looks at my ball and then at the threesome and says, "I'll drop where he is." The lady looked at her "teacher" like he was a moron.
We laughed for a while and when we finished 18 they were still on the course, way back.

[outthere]

Re: Reluctant let through

Let me share a story about this topic. We thought it was funny at the time.
My buddy and I were playing the old Richview GC (sadly, now a subdivision). We were trying to get 18 on a twilight ticket. Well, the entire front 9 we followed a very slow threesome. Two guys and a woman. One of the guys was "teaching" the woman how to play, and how to hit a golf shot. She didn't look too impressed and the guy was himself terrible. Even on carts and with my friend and I walking, we were right behind them through 9 holes.
Finally on 10 we caught them on the tee as buddy was showing the lady how to set up her drive. I asked if we could play through, politely. The guys hemmed and hawed, but the lady was gracious and offered to let us tee-up.
Well I suck, but hit the drive of my life, 250 right up the pipe. It even looked great in the air!
My buddy looks at my ball and then at the threesome and says, "I'll drop where he is." The lady looked at her "teacher" like he was a moron.
We laughed for a while and when we finished 18 they were still on the course, way back.

Great story, that is exactly what I will do next time my golf partner hits a great drive when we play through a group.

Thank you

[Benz]

Re: Reluctant let through

Let me share a story about this topic. We thought it was funny at the time.
My buddy and I were playing the old Richview GC (sadly, now a subdivision). We were trying to get 18 on a twilight ticket. Well, the entire front 9 we followed a very slow threesome. Two guys and a woman. One of the guys was "teaching" the woman how to play, and how to hit a golf shot. She didn't look too impressed and the guy was himself terrible. Even on carts and with my friend and I walking, we were right behind them through 9 holes.
Finally on 10 we caught them on the tee as buddy was showing the lady how to set up her drive. I asked if we could play through, politely. The guys hemmed and hawed, but the lady was gracious and offered to let us tee-up.
Well I suck, but hit the drive of my life, 250 right up the pipe. It even looked great in the air!
My buddy looks at my ball and then at the threesome and says, "I'll drop where he is." The lady looked at her "teacher" like he was a moron.
We laughed for a while and when we finished 18 they were still on the course, way back.

[4wedges]

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Nice story, I like what your buddy did. That was smart.

[On_Plane]

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Both of these. I don't care what pace the foursome is making, whether they are "on time" with the tee sheet or not. If I am waiting every shot and there is room in front of them, then they should let me through. And etiquette is a lost art these days anyway, so if everyone just assumed that faster players go through it would make things easier.
I would never expect to get let through multiple groups all the way to #18.

Agreed.

Not sure why anyone would want to upset the group behind that's pushing them if there is room in front.