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  • #16
    Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

    Originally posted by fuddy View Post
    Not really sure what the goal of your thread is here. Is it to just to educate and answer basic questions?

    PD days are self explanitory I thought!
    I dont care what teachers make, they're fairly paid for what they do I think.
    Hours worked vs. pay scale is again is fair IMO.
    Coaching I assume is voluntary, don't like not getting paid, don't do it. If my assumption is wrong, correct me.
    IMO, religion does not belong in public boards.

    In a closing rant,

    I feel ZERO sympathy for those teachers who constantly ***** and complain about pay, hours worked at home, prep time etc.

    Truth is, I refuse to believe that any new or aspiring teachers don't know the deal going in. How many occupations do you know of get 10-11 weeks off per year?

    2 weeks at x-mas, march break and 7-8 more during summer!

    It's fair

    Fuddy
    Yes, to educate and answer questions.

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    • #17
      Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

      Originally posted by unskinnybop99 View Post
      I'm not retired from teaching so I can't really answer many questions regarding retirement. However, I had about 8 or 9% of my salary go the the pension plan every year.
      You much have change career a while back.... Now it is around 11% of your salary going to pension....

      You can retire with a full pension when you hit the 85 factor.... Years of experience + age.... You get 2%*Years of experience as your pension....

      So if you have been a teacher for 30 years you get 60% of your salary.... and you get NO benefit.... You want a vision, dental or health plan you pay for it...
      If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball.

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      • #18
        Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

        Originally posted by Sergio View Post
        Is the curriculum in our schools evolving, or are we stuck in the past?
        Evolving all the time... the problem sometime not for the best.... I think the biggest problem is Teachers College.... Old teachers that don't really care about technology. Biggest waste of time and money but you need your diploma... They could do so much more.... Has not change much in the last 30+ years....
        If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball.

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        • #19
          Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

          What are Family Leaders responsible for @ the school boards?

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by racmbs View Post
            Do teachers really like Apple's?
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            • #21
              Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

              Originally posted by bogeytrain View Post
              What are Family Leaders responsible for @ the school boards?
              No idea...sorry.

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              • #22
                Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

                The No Zero policy is being discussed in another thread, however maybe it's inclusion here is also appropriate. IMO, no assignment no mark, just like the real world no work no pay, now that's a real lesson in reality. How do teachers in general feel about this issue?

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                • #23
                  Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

                  Originally posted by 4underthru9 View Post
                  The No Zero policy is being discussed in another thread, however maybe it's inclusion here is also appropriate. IMO, no assignment no mark, just like the real world no work no pay, now that's a real lesson in reality. How do teachers in general feel about this issue?
                  Teaching is like running a small sole proprietorship business. You have your own classroom with your own students. How you want to teach the students, what materials you want to use, what learning aids you want to use, what classroom management strategies you want to use etc. is generally up to the teacher.

                  You asked how teachers in general feel about Zero Marks Policy. I would only see teachers in the morning, sometimes at lunch and briefly after class. However, during my breaks, lunch and recess I was marking and preparing for lessons not socializing in the staff room. I didn't waste time and decided not to bring work home (if I could help it). Teaching can be a lot of work if you manage your time poorly.

                  To answer your question, most teachers that i worked with do not like the "zero" policies, "can't fail" policies, "do the assignment over" policies, "no deadline policies", etc. However, Government decides what teacher do not teachers.

                  I believe that if you do not hand in the work, you do not get the marks. There has to be some accountability here. Students need to be taught the importance of responsibility and the consequences for not being responsible.

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                  • #24
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                    There are some questions regarding Teacher's College in the other threads.

                    First, in Ontario they are generally all the same. York, Queen's, Western, all the Buffalo schools, oversea schools, etc.

                    In order to be certified in Ontario, you must meet certain requirements. These requirements are specific courses and minimum hours of practice teaching in your specific teaching subject.

                    The only disadvantage about going overseas is that you may need to go over certain Ontario rules and curriculum issues.

                    Going to Queen's does not mean you are a better teacher than the person who went to Lakehead. All the school have to follow the Ontario requirements for an Education program (teacher's college).

                    Having said all that......nothing and i mean nothing prepares you the best for teaching than an excellent teaching practice supervisor and experience.

                    How do you deal with big "Sammy" (anger issues, from a single mother) who decided to start throwing punches (I'm talking about punches that land and blood all over the floor) at "Ricky" because he called him a "loser leaf fan"? Experience.

                    How do you deal with five special education students (all different disabilities), five "smart" kids, five ESL students, five "bored" kids, three kids who watched their father beat up their mother last night, and five kids who had no breakfast or packed a lunch all one classroom? Experience.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

                      Originally posted by unskinnybop99 View Post
                      There are some questions regarding Teacher's College in the other threads.

                      First, in Ontario they are generally all the same. York, Queen's, Western, all the Buffalo schools, oversea schools, etc.

                      In order to be certified in Ontario, you must meet certain requirements. These requirements are specific courses and minimum hours of practice teaching in your specific teaching subject.

                      The only disadvantage about going overseas is that you may need to go over certain Ontario rules and curriculum issues.

                      Going to Queen's does not mean you are a better teacher than the person who went to Lakehead. All the school have to follow the Ontario requirements for an Education program (teacher's college).
                      Aside from the requirements that Ontario sets, are you say that all teachers colleges share the exact same curriculum?

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                      • #26
                        Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

                        Originally posted by Sergio View Post
                        Aside from the requirements that Ontario sets, are you say that all teachers colleges share the exact same curriculum?
                        I wrote "generally" the same. You still need (mandatory by OCT) to take a course in pedagogy, classroom management, curriculum, etc. I really wanted to emphasize that it is the teaching experience that will make you a better teacher. Knowledge is great but using that knowledge in a classroom effectively will make you a better teacher.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

                          Originally posted by unskinnybop99 View Post
                          I wrote "generally" the same. You still need (mandatory by OCT) to take a course in pedagogy, classroom management, curriculum, etc. I really wanted to emphasize that it is the teaching experience that will make you a better teacher. Knowledge is great but using that knowledge in a classroom effectively will make you a better teacher.
                          A university education in Canada is "generally" the same, but they are hardly equal.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

                            Originally posted by Sergio View Post
                            A university education in Canada is "generally" the same, but they are hardly equal.
                            OCT requires that you take certain courses and acquire an "x" number teaching hours to be certified in Ontario.

                            For example, if you want to be certified in Intermediate/Senior Math, you need to take a pedagogy course in Intermediate/Senior Math. Whether you take the course at Lakehead or Queen's, the course outline/curriculum will be the same. The Ontario government requires that the outline/curriculum cover a specific list of subjects in the Intermediate/Senior Math pedagogy course. This is mandatory or OCT will not certify you in Intermediate/Senior Math.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

                              Originally posted by unskinnybop99 View Post
                              OCT requires that you take certain courses and acquire an "x" number teaching hours to be certified in Ontario.

                              For example, if you want to be certified in Intermediate/Senior Math, you need to take a pedagogy course in Intermediate/Senior Math. Whether you take the course at Lakehead or Queen's, the course outline/curriculum will be the same. The Ontario government requires that the outline/curriculum cover a specific list of subjects in the Intermediate/Senior Math pedagogy course. This is mandatory or OCT will not certify you in Intermediate/Senior Math.
                              To be able to be certified in Maths for example you need to have at least (I think 18) University credit in that subject.
                              If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Want to know about teachers? Ask here.

                                Originally posted by fuddy View Post
                                Not really sure what the goal of your thread is here. Is it to just to educate and answer basic questions?

                                PD days are self explanitory I thought!
                                I dont care what teachers make, they're fairly paid for what they do I think.
                                Hours worked vs. pay scale is again is fair IMO.
                                Coaching I assume is voluntary, don't like not getting paid, don't do it. If my assumption is wrong, correct me.
                                IMO, religion does not belong in public boards.

                                In a closing rant,

                                I feel ZERO sympathy for those teachers who constantly ***** and complain about pay, hours worked at home, prep time etc.

                                Truth is, I refuse to believe that any new or aspiring teachers don't know the deal going in. How many occupations do you know of get 10-11 weeks off per year?

                                2 weeks at x-mas, march break and 7-8 more during summer!

                                It's fair

                                Fuddy
                                Coaching is voluntary. I do it because I want to. It was a draw into the profession for me. I gave up tons of money in business to teach. In my case just a fact.

                                Don't want your sympathy. I don't complain about pay, hours worked, prep time, etc.

                                We get the weeks off the kids get. If that changes, so be it.

                                But I am sick of the some of the public complaining about us complaining. Is the public ticked we may "pull" extra-curriculars? Yes. But like it or not we are members of a union and this tactic is all the legislation has left us. Again, just a fact.

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