Toronto Maple Leafs 2014-15 THREAD

[synergy]

Re: Toronto Maple Leafs 2014-15 THREAD

Yeah, pull the goalie. Again. Honestly, does anyone have stats to show that EVERYTIME they do this, it results in another empty netter? Reimer sprawled out at the circle was just comical. They we're getting chances at the other end and could've easily got within one, but no, let's pull the goalie with what is possibly the worst puck possession team in the league. Oh there's entertainment value here alright, sadly at my own teams expense.

[4wedges]

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i feel bad for Horacheck, he looks so lost and team has given up ( most of them).
I have always been optimistic about the Leafs, choosing to be positive over the years (yeah, I know, I know). But this team has quit, they are a disgrace. I find myself pulling for them to lose, not to get a high draft pick but so management makes major changes; not trading 3rd liners (insert joke here), but trading core guys.
They are an embarrassment.

[P25]

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Yeah, pull the goalie. Again. Honestly, does anyone have states to show that EVERYTIME they do this, it results in another empty netter? Reimer sprawled out at the circle was just comical. They we're getting chances at the other end and could've easily got within one, but no, let's pull the goalie with what is possibly the worst puck possession team in the league. Oh there's entertainment value here alright, sadly at my own teams expense.

Seriously?

[fuddy]

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i feel bad for Horacheck, he looks so lost and team has given up ( most of them).
I have always been optimistic about the Leafs, choosing to be positive over the years (yeah, I know, I know). But this team has quit, they are a disgrace. I find myself pulling for them to lose, not to get a high draft pick but so management makes major changes; not trading 3rd liners (insert joke here), but trading core guys.
They are an embarrassment.

Not sure what to think here. Im a Habs fan, no secret there. I would think that with every passing loss that the fans should be rather optimistic at a high draft pick and start developing talent from within, acquiring young prospects, picks etc. This season looks a lot like Montreals a few years ago when they fired a coach, hired a lame duck (Cunnyworth), finish 3rd last and land a gem in Galchenyuk.

Theres more work to do in Toronto but, I'd think this is finally a sign of change to come. Does anyone know if the organization has revamped scouting and talent development? This would my first priority if I were the head of any organization.

Am I wrong in thinking Leafs Nation just doesn't care if it takes 5 years? As long as it's a direction of change and not the same old crap?

Fudd

[dimitrib]

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Like hitting below the belt

Or so the knee on knee hit

[Weirfan]

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According some TGN experts Carlyle was the problem. Apparently not.
Randy must be at home sitting in his LazyBoy having a really good chuckle.

Seeing now how good a job Carlyle actually did with this sorry lot of players.
He had them in a playoff position all season right up until his firing.
How things have changed since then.

Personally, I never thought he was the problem.

Perhaps puck posession time has increased since he left, some also think that is more important than wins.

[P25]

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Seeing now how good a job Carlyle actually did with this sorry lot of players.
He had them in a playoff position all season right up until his firing.
How things have changed since then.

Personally, I never thought he was the problem.

Perhaps puck posession time has increased since he left, some also think that is more important than wins.

In the last spot and teams below them had multiple games in hand. In case you don't know, the last playoff team averages more than a point a game. But hey, they were playing great. So great that you used to state how often the goalie was the first star.

Carlyle was step one (words of one of the assistant GMs). Nobody suggested it was all that needed to change.

[Weirfan]

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I'm I

In the last spot and teams below them had multiple games in hand. In case you don't know, the last playoff team averages more than a point a game. But hey, they were playing great. So great that you used to state how often the goalie was the first star.

Carlyle was step one (words of one of the assistant GMs). Nobody suggested it was all that needed to change.

Not several games, 1 and 2 games on the teams behind, iirc.

So you are saying they are better without Carlyle?

Carlyle had these guys playing to their strength, Offense. Sure their D was not good and goalies helped but now they can't score and can't play D since he's gone. He also had them keep many of the shots against to the periphery, now it's open season in the Leaff end.
You were Carlyle's biggest critic with your Corsic charts and puck possession stats, best he had this team winning.

Just admit you were wrong about him. saying that puck possession stats were the problem, obviously not.
carlyle was NOT the problem, maybe not the best coach in the league but he got results with the team which speaks volumes over meaningless charts and pictographs.
U

[bogey5]

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The question now is..who is guna put in the harder work tomorrow night to try to lose

Is this a must lose game?

[MannyR]

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You were Carlyle's biggest critic with your Corsic charts and puck possession stats, best he had this team winning.

Just admit you were wrong about him. saying that puck possession stats were the problem, obviously not.
carlyle was NOT the problem, maybe not the best coach in the league but he got results with the team which speaks volumes over meaningless charts and pictographs.
U

Seriously?

[Benz]

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I have not watched a Leaf game since September, nor do I intend to watch any for the remainder of the season.
I hope that the Leaf brass has a fire sale among the current players, and that the coaching staff is let go immediately after the last game of the season.

48 years. And counting.....

[Dimpled Balls]

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I'm I

Not several games, 1 and 2 games on the teams behind, iirc.

So you are saying they are better without Carlyle?

Carlyle had these guys playing to their strength, Offense. Sure their D was not good and goalies helped but now they can't score and can't play D since he's gone. He also had them keep many of the shots against to the periphery, now it's open season in the Leaff end.
You were Carlyle's biggest critic with your Corsic charts and puck possession stats, best he had this team winning.

Just admit you were wrong about him. saying that puck possession stats were the problem, obviously not.
carlyle was NOT the problem, maybe not the best coach in the league but he got results with the team which speaks volumes over meaningless charts and pictographs.
U

Funny how some people think on here think puck possession is the ultimate factor in being a playoff team or not. Carlyle definitely wasn't the problem, I didn't mind winning 5-4 and allowing 35-40 shots a night. At least we were in a playoff spot, now we can't play forward or defense.

[levendis]

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Funny how some people think on here think puck possession is the ultimate factor in being a playoff team or not. Carlyle definitely wasn't the problem, I didn't mind winning 5-4 and allowing 35-40 shots a night. At least we were in a playoff spot, now we can't play forward or defense.

I said this once and I'll say it again.

#bringbackRandy

[P25]

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I'm I

Not several games, 1 and 2 games on the teams behind, iirc.

So you are saying they are better without Carlyle?

Carlyle had these guys playing to their strength, Offense. Sure their D was not good and goalies helped but now they can't score and can't play D since he's gone. He also had them keep many of the shots against to the periphery, now it's open season in the Leaff end.
You were Carlyle's biggest critic with your Corsic charts and puck possession stats, best he had this team winning.

Just admit you were wrong about him. saying that puck possession stats were the problem, obviously not.
carlyle was NOT the problem, maybe not the best coach in the league but he got results with the team which speaks volumes over meaningless charts and pictographs.
U

They're still not a good possession team.

Do you have proof that shots were from the outside? I'm going to guess you don't since it's a figment of your imagination.

Are they better under Horachek? I'd be foolish to suggest they are. They are doing some things better from a defensive standpoint. They've totally lost their ability to generate good scoring chances though.

[Pin Seeker]

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Or so the knee on knee hit

Are you referring to my knee