President Trump

[Arthur Dailey]

In international relations force is the only language that works whether it be economic or military.

Proven incorrect in many instances. Even when reading Clausewitz it is apparent that war is used only when other forms of diplomacy do not work.

And according to Stoessinger and other experts on how war starts, they usually being by accident when one party misinterprets the actions of another or feels that it is being pushed into a corner.

[hemants]

Proven incorrect in many instances. Even when reading Clausewitz it is apparent that war is used only when other forms of diplomacy do not work.

And according to Stoessinger and other experts on how war starts, they usually being by accident when one party misinterprets the actions of another or feels that it is being pushed into a corner.

Name one sir. And to be specific, name an instance where a long standing position was significantly changed without the threat of force or economic impact.

more to the point, trump is succeeding where Obama failed.

[Chambokl]

more to the point, trump is succeeding where Obama failed.

Well one thing I have to say you are constant . . . the same bull now for at least 6 months. Hope it finishes better for you this time.

[Fredk]

Name one sir. And to be specific, name an instance where a long standing position was significantly changed without the threat of force or economic impact.

more to the point, trump is succeeding where Obama failed.

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It forever entrenched bleeding heart liberalism in Canadian law and gave right wingers across the land a permanent case of heartburn. Not a drop of blood was spilled, though I'm sure I've spotted a couple of Timmies stains on the original document.

[hemants]

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It forever entrenched bleeding heart liberalism in Canadian law and gave right wingers across the land a permanent case of heartburn. Not a drop of blood was spilled, though I'm sure I've spotted a couple of Timmies stains on the original document.

Not an example of international relations

and it gave people equal rights, not special privileges based on race or gender

[hemants]

Well one thing I have to say you are constant . . . the same bull now for at least 6 months. Hope it finishes better for you this time.

I'm not tired of being right yet sir. Not sure your post is in the spirit of the intended tone here.

[Pin Seeker]

I'm not tired of being right yet sir. Not sure your post is in the spirit of the intended tone here.

boring

[pudubny]

Name one sir. And to be specific, name an instance where a long standing position was significantly changed without the threat of force or economic impact.

more to the point, trump is succeeding where Obama failed.

1/ the Marshall Plan
2/ NATO
3/ German reunification
4/ GATT and WTO
5/ Israel - Egypt peace accords
6/ China's opening of the economy in 1979
7/ nuclear non proliferation treaty
all by diplomatic means, no threat of force or sanctions required.
Those are but a few.

[Fredk]

1/ the Marshall Plan
2/ NATO
3/ German reunification
4/ GATT and WTO
5/ Israel - Egypt peace accords
6/ China's opening of the economy in 1979
7/ nuclear non proliferation treaty
all by diplomatic means, no threat of force or sanctions required.
Those are but a few.

I liked mine better. It was funny and not at all in the spirit of the intended tone here.

[hemants]

1/ the Marshall Plan
2/ NATO
3/ German reunification
4/ GATT and WTO
5/ Israel - Egypt peace accords
6/ China's opening of the economy in 1979
7/ nuclear non proliferation treaty
all by diplomatic means, no threat of force or sanctions required.
Those are but a few.

Marshall plan was made possible by the almighty dollar. Not by anyone saying pretty please.

I'll get to the rest. Thanks for sharing.

[hemants]

1/ the Marshall Plan
2/ NATO
3/ German reunification
4/ GATT and WTO
5/ Israel - Egypt peace accords
6/ China's opening of the economy in 1979
7/ nuclear non proliferation treaty
all by diplomatic means, no threat of force or sanctions required.
Those are but a few.

2. NATO is simply a pact of mutual defense. A club of countries. I wouldn't call this an example of significantly moving a country off a position

3. German reunification was fueled by Ronald Reagan's economic warfare. Reagan knew the Soviets could not keep up with US spending.

[hemants]

1/ the Marshall Plan
2/ NATO
3/ German reunification
4/ GATT and WTO
5/ Israel - Egypt peace accords
6/ China's opening of the economy in 1979
7/ nuclear non proliferation treaty
all by diplomatic means, no threat of force or sanctions required.
Those are but a few.

4. Trade deals dont meet the criteria
5. A negotiated end to a war and therefore done under threat of the alternative which is continued war
6. Domestic issue. Agriculture industry was failing
7. NPT - how did that work out with North Korea?

[Bellyhungry]

John Dickerson, formerly CBS Meet The Press host, wrote that the problems is possibly not the president, but the office of the presidency.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/05/a-broken-office/556883/

Edit: Thanks to MFM for noticing the broken link.

[ManFromMoffat]

The Dog Whistle "Precedent":

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/22/1759169/-Knowingly-or-not-Trump-s-Attacked-Chuck-Todd-with-Sleepy-Eyes-an-Anti-Semitic-slur

[pudubny]

Marshall plan was made possible by the almighty dollar. Not by anyone saying pretty please.

I'll get to the rest. Thanks for sharing.

The Marshall Plan was not initially accepted by all countries but Marshall and Truman saw it as key to rebuilding Europe and stalling the spread of communism in countries like France, Greece, Italy and others. By negotiating with these countries to accept the offer, it changed their course. Countries who rejected the Marshall plan were much slower to recover. No threat of violence but incentives.